This is a page where anyone can share comments or experiences. Please feel free to post about anything you’ve experienced in Canadian Theatre, or your feelings, or thoughts on the subject.
Oh, and try and keep the dialogue relatively respectable.
This is a page where anyone can share comments or experiences. Please feel free to post about anything you’ve experienced in Canadian Theatre, or your feelings, or thoughts on the subject.
Oh, and try and keep the dialogue relatively respectable.
Hi Andrew,
I have many stories, some absolutely mind blowing, like the time that Turtle Gals were about to perform some songs from our show The Scrubbing Project and the sound man asked us why we wore glasses “because being an Indian and wearing glasses is like a Frenchman with red hair, it just doesn’t compute!” I applaud your commitment. As the Co-Chair of the Diversity committee at ACTRA Toronto and National I hope that we can assist each other in these initiatives. I was hoping to produce a one pager of stories to distribute to industry professionals. If people are willing, perhaps we can use the ones you collect for that purpose. All the best. Jani
By: Jani Lauzon on August 8, 2008
at 3:50 pm
Wow. That doesn’t surprise me, but Wow.
That is an incredible idea. I think we should get Equity involved too. It would be great to reach out to performers all over the country and collect all our stories and collect them together somehow. Maybe on the net. Maybe in a book, I don’t know. Can we get together sometime and talk about it?
By: theplaywright on August 9, 2008
at 3:57 am
Hi Andrew,
I don’t think we have ever met formally. But glad to meet you on cyber space. I hope to meet you in person one day soon…I am the founder of Alameda Theatre Company, Canada’s premiere professional Latin American theatre company.
I started out as an actor over ten years ago (maybe 15 now) and am very sad to say that because of the state of our industry, I no longer do what I was so passionate about once. I worked in mostly film, because in theatre school I was told I had to get rid of my accent. (And when auditioning for theatre it was like pulling teeth. No body took me seriously.) I made a living in in the film industry. Got bit parts here and there (mostly American garbage). I got sick, physically, of the industry, the stereotypes I had to deal with, the anger was buidling.
I decided to do something about the status quo and so I formed Alameda Theatre Company because I got sick of being sent out for the hooker or the maid or the gang banger’s girlfriend, or the drug dealer’s girlfriend- and always with a thick Latina accent. I was also so sick of not being cast in plays specifically about the Latino experience because AD’s didn’t think I had enough experience. The parts would always go to a Caucasian girl or an Italian girl, or a Greek girl because she had brown hair and brown eyes and she could put on a relatively realistic accent. But never , ever was I seen for plays about a “Canadian” family (aka white) because I looked Latina and that was just not right. I also got so angry at the fact that parts for Latinos were always the sidekick, or the supporting role. Never, ever the leading role. So, I don’t care so much about not getting cast in plays at Shaw or Stratford. Those theatres put on plays that have had their time on stage. They are classics, yes, but what about work written by people who I can relate to? What I care about is creating a place, a foundation in present day theatre, using our own words, our own experiences to create a theatre that is relevant, that speaks to my (our) experiences and my (our) reality. Theatre that speaks about the world that I live in now, today. I have created the first Latin Canadian playwrights festival in the history of Canadian theatre. I have started El Barrio, an online network of Latino artists from across the nation (there aren’t many of us yet, but I’m working on that as well.) We will be producing the infamous Refugee Hotel in the fall of 2009 with Latino actors playing the Chilean characters. I am also working on a youth program to get Latino youth interested in the arts and to start using theatre to explore who they are and to banish the stereotypes. I think I have found my calling. I feel vindicated and so alive when I have a young actor call me and tell me that they finally have something to believe in in canadian theatre. I feel that I am beginning something quite special and powerful here. One of these days I want to be able to name five great canadian playwrights and I want more than one of them to be Latino. I want to be able to go see a play at any theatre in this country and I want to relate to the play because it speaks to me as a Latin American- Canadian woman AND as a human being. I want there to one day not have a need for the Alameda Theatre Company’s, the Obsidian Theatre, Native Earth, Fu-Gen, Carlos Bulosan etc. Because it really is about great theatre right?
I applaud what you are doing, but I think the real energy needs to be spent on creating theatre that is relevant. Like your plays. Dead white male theatre is starting to not be relevant. I personally think people place to much reverence in these institutions, institutions which are just now beginning to open their eyes about diversity and casting actors of “colour” in their plays. (And what year are we in?) I say, “who cares”, it’s not relevant. Create your own work. Be the next Shakespeare or Shaw with your own work. The more powerful our voice, the more opportunity we will create and the more relevant Canadian theatre will become. That’s my two cents.
In solidarity,
Marilo
By: Marilo Nunez on August 15, 2008
at 1:05 am
One more thing…if we become the persons in powerful positions (ie. Artistic Directors, General Managers, Producers etc.) then we can also begin to make change. It’s not just about having white artistic director’s change their minds all of a sudden and to begin hiring artists of colour. Think of it this way. Jackie Maxwell went into the Shaw festival with an intention of making sure that there was more gender equality. And apparently that happened. So, we need artists of colour to begin heading organizations in order to make change. For example, I am the GM at Pleiades Theatre, a company that has historically cast mostly white actors and has historically produced plays by dead white European males. I am (I hope) beginning to have some influence in this company because I am the one who builds the budgets, runs the company from the inside. I can say to John, “what about a play from South America or Africa or East Asia, or Iran?” Being in these positions gives one the power to (slowly) change things from the inside. It’s going to take collective energy to make change, but this country’s theatre really needs the kick in the ass it deserves. I say “Hasta La Victoria Siempre!”
Marilo
By: Marilo Nunez on August 15, 2008
at 1:21 am
The first thing to say is that I’m a white male actor/playwright/director – I hope that doesn’t automatically disqualify me from participation in the conversation.
Obviously I can’t comment on personal experience of discrimination or racism, but I do have an observation on the whole idea of color blind casting, triggered by this conversation and also, believe it or not, by a memory of Star Trek.
Without going into huge amounts of detail, there was an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation in which the right of the android Data to choose his life path was put on trial.
At one point in the debate, there was a speech about “whole generations of disposable people” who did the dirty work for those in power.
An effective and evocative speech in its own right, but to me it was made even more powerful by the fact that it was spoken by a black woman (for the record, Whoopi Goldberg). In short, the speech was full of resonances simply because of the individual who spoke it – the actor, not the character (whose race and gender, by the way, was never an issue).
Over the last few days, I’ve wondered whether there might be similar value to be mined in non-white casting, not just at Shaw but in theatre in general in this country …
For example, having just seen Mrs. Warren’s Profession at Shaw, I wonder whether Kitty Warren’s passions about women’s independence might carry even more weight if they were spoken by an African-American/Canadian or Chinese woman …
Or thinking in terms of other Shaw plays, would there be useful, moving, and valuably contemporary resonances if St. Joan, Ellie and Mazzini Dunn (Heartbreak House), Eliza and Alfred Doolittle, Candida and her husband or Proserpina Garnett (Candida), the exploitive landlord father and daughter in Widower’s Houses …
… if they were played by actors of color?
Or is that exploitation?
I don’t know …
… but I do know I’d be interested to know how actors of color would respond to this idea.
Thanks for listening
Gordon
By: Gordon Portman on August 15, 2008
at 1:54 pm
So I met this guy when I was working at my old job when I just got out of theatre school about four years ago. His name was Mike and he studied film at York. He had already been out of school for two years, so he had been around quite a bit and knew more people in the indie circuits and all that. So we got to talking and he said that if I send him my P/R, he could hook me up with some directors he knew. I was excited! I felt like I made my first connection in the biz.
So there he was being all so encouraging and what not, and he said to me, “Yeah, you’d get work out there.” But then he said, “Because you have the look of a maid.” And what was startling was he did not say it as an insult or as an ignorant remark, he said it matter-of-factly. Then, as if that was not bad enough he added, “Oh I don’t mean just in films that take place now. You could so play a maid during Shakespeare’s time.”
Did I mention that I’m Filipino and that’s how he probably came up with that idea? I doubt he would have said that if I was Caucasian. Then again, it was not much of a surprise. My three years at the National Theatre School of Canada basically prepared me for that kind of experience. During my second year I was informed by the Artistic Director that I will only be playing small parts in my third year and I quote, “To prepare you for disappointment.” The reason?
I was only good enough to play small parts because my English, according to them, was not understandable to English-speaking people. They said they know it’s difficult, especially for somebody like me whose first language is not English. Funny, I’ve been speaking English since I was a kid. Having been born in the Philippines, English was a major language. Yes, at the time I had a slight accent, (operative word SLIGHT), but it was understandable. (I came to Canada in 1991 at the age of 11 – trust me, by the time the year 2000 hit, I lost 80% of it). And it just so happened that one of my classmates was from France who also had a slight accent and who happened to be white, yet she played major parts during my graduating class’ final year performances. Hmmm. Interesting, isn’t it?
The last time I read an article about Toronto’s diversity, it said 45% of the people in this city are visible minorities, many of them not born in Canada or came here as a child. Canadians are also always quick to be proud to say that our country is very much diversified. You look around and see people of many different ethnicities with different beautiful sounds from around the world– my old dentist was Greek, my eye doctor is Romanian, my boss at work is Iranian, the grocery store beside my apartment is owned by a Korean family, the pharmacist at the drug store two blocks down is Indian, even classrooms these days look like a mini United Nations! – how come we don’t see them reflected on stage and on screen, and not just on stereotypical parts (please, no more Chinese food delivery guys who do not speak English or middle-Eastern cab drivers!)? Would it hurt to cast the lead hotshot doctor as a Jamaican guy who has a little bit of a Jamaican sound in his speech, or that big time lawyer as a woman of Spanish descent who speaks with a little bit of a Spanish tone? As long as what they say is clear and understandable (operative words CLEAR and UNDERSTANDABLE), why is it a big problem?
The answer? Well, quoting a lady agent whom I’ve met with two years ago (who did say that on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the perfect Canadian sound, I’m a 7) – “You don’t sound Canadian enough.”
I guess that means me and the other growing 45% population in this city.
Shirley Marquez
By: Shirley Marquez on August 18, 2008
at 7:47 pm