Okay, so I’m sitting in my office yesterday, casually going over stuff for the meeting today with Jackie and my agent calls. I have an audition right before my meeting. Of course. I get there and they’re 40 minutes behind. Of course. You may want to pick a leader that will turn down an audition for the greater good. I arrived just in time. Ah the Gods of Film and Television sure do like a good laugh.
First I want to thank Raoul, I wouldn’t have met with Jackie without his encouragement. And next I want to thank everyone who sent me an encouraging email before the meeting. It really meant a lot to me, and gave me a real sense that I’m not alone. It was really important for me to be able to explain to Jackie that it’s not about me being a disgruntled writer.
Now lets get to it. First I will tell you what Jackie told me. Then I’ll lay out everything you guys told me to tell her. And then I’ll give you their response and then I’ll encourage you to tell me what you think. Do not, I repeat, do not shoot the messenger.
Jackie began the meeting explaining to me what the Festival has achieved already in regards to diversity. They explained the new commissions from Canadian playwrights. And I’m sitting there listening to her explain how they’ve got a new Canadian play by Ann Marie MacDonald and I’m thinking to myself “Jackie… You are sitting across the table from someone who was told that your theatre doesn’t want his play because there are too many black people in it. And I’m supposed to be happy about the new Canadian plays you’re working on with Ann Marie MacDonald? I love Anne Marie, but how about starting off with… Andrew we are so sorry, it was wrong for someone from the company to tell you that your race bars you from the theatre.” I didn’t get a sorry. I’m sure Jackie’s reading this right now saying to herself ‘Fuck, I forgot to say sorry! Fuck!’ Look, I didn’t ask for one. I don’t need one, I’m a big boy, this isn’t about me, it’s fine. But it would have been really nice. Let’s move on.
Jackie spoke about the difference between Stratford and Shaw. Shaw is more of an ensemble. Stratford can hire people with more freedom, Shaw would like to create an ensemble.
Jackie explained that there are 2 leads in the company who are of a visible minority. And Richard and Lisa are not playing leads, but they are considered to be performers who will eventually grow and play a larger role in the company.
They have a speaker series with authors like Salman Rushdie
They are working with Cahoots
They have an intensive with young actors.
They are committed to Canadian artists. Directors, writers, actors.
My response to Jackie was as follows:
I told her that she may be doing wonderful things right now, but many people in the community don’t care. Many people in the community have had a bad experiences with the previous artistic director Christopher Newton, and wrote off the theatre years ago. And many, like myself, don’t want to set foot in the theatre again until there’s more diversity on the stage.
I explained that there may be two lead actors of colour, but the reason why all this began is because I was told that there’s a limit to how many people of colour the theatre can hire. I know sometimes some people frame the discussion about the Shaw Festival in a way that implies that they don’t hire people of colour. Which must make Thom Alison feel just dandy. I have never said that they don’t hire people of colour. I have said that they have a limit. And they shouldn’t. How can you do an August Wilson play with two actors of colour?
I explained that it’s great that they have Richard there and Lisa, but there are many, MANY established artists in the diverse community who are older than Richard and Lisa and who find the idea that before they could do a lead role that they would have to work their way up the ladder after playing a servant highly patronizing. I explained that there are actors in the diverse community who are classically trained, who have actually performed in Shaw’s works already, and who would love the chance to work in that environment. (What I forgot to mention, and I will now, is that there are actors of colour who also can do an English accent very well. Shaw’s work often requires a facility with a British accent. There are actors in the diverse community who are trained, talented and FROM ENGLAND and can do an authentic English accent because THEY’RE BRITISH. They wouldn’t need training. And there are others who are simply really REALLY talented and can learn different accents very well.)
I explained that their relationship with Cahoots is great, but many in the community are concerned that it’s tokenism. That it makes them look good on paper, but until they actually produce something together, or reach out to other companies, it’s just great optics.
Then I had a chance to ask her some questions.
I asked how the theatre was doing financially. She said it was doing very well. They feel confident that next year they will recover all the losses of last year.
I asked her to tell me what plays she’s doing next year. She said she couldn’t, (fair enough) but she told me generally who the playwrights were.
Then I told her the list of suggestions that I received from you guys. I’ll list the suggestions and your responses.
Add a diversity clause to your mandate.
(She said that was a good idea.)
Add diversity to your board of directors.
(She said that she was going to a board meeting right after our meeting and that it’s a good idea and she will bring it up with them.)
Change your mandate to include plays from visible minorities.
(In some very exciting news she explained that she has been planning for a while to change the mandate to include political plays, from any era that challenge the status quo in the same fashion that Shaw did. This I was VERY excited to hear. And I believe is a step in the right direction. It opens the door for plays by so many writers of all shades.)
Hire a visible minority actor to star in a non musical on the main stage.
(She said that she would try. She’s open to the idea, but – and really, don’t shoot the messenger – the acting company at the festival is a family. They are not like Stratford where they can hire a lead actor to come in for one show. That’s not a criticism of Stratford, it’s just a slight difference in approach. She feels that it is hard on the actors who have worked there for years and have wanted a shot at playing a lead role. If she hires someone, to come into the Festival, she wants them to stay and make a commitment for more than one season. And she expressed concern that perhaps an actor of colour might not want to come to Shaw and commit to staying for more than a season.)
Program a play for 2010 by a playwright of colour.
(And just to be clear with everyone, the list of playwrights she name who are in the 2009 season were all white. At this stage, it would be impossible to change the program for 2009. Budgets and board meetings were planned at least 6 months ago to plan 2009 and so it would be reasonable to expect a play by a person of colour to be in their season for 2010. She explained that she’s interested in the idea and will look at the plays suggested by the group.)
Hire a person of colour to direct a play next season.
Hire a person of colour to write a play for the.
(She agreed to look at a list of directors and plays collected by the group.)
I then asked her what she would like to say to the group.
She said that she realizes that they have to make their process more clear.
She cannot speak to the history of the previous artistic director, she can only speak about her accomplishments.
She understand the concerns of older established artists of colour.
She is going to open the mandate even more.
She agrees that even within the mandate there is opportunity for diverse casting.
She thinks it’s a good idea to add diversity to the mandate.
She will report to the board about diversity.
The whole company is listening.
There have already been conversations about diversity.
We will have to wait and see if she can put her money where her mouth is.
And finally she urged me to tell you all to come to the Shaw Festival. See the plays there. If you can’t afford the ticket, she said, and I quote, ‘Email me and I’ll get you a comp.’ I think she’s serious. I also think that she’s CRAZY. We’ve got 700 members now. But hey, she said it.
To be honest, I wanted more. I wanted to hear, ‘Yes we will hire an actor from the diverse community next year. We will hire a diverse director. We will program a diverse play in 2010. Yes yes yes.’ That’s what I wanted to hear. I didn’t hear that. I heard, ‘These institutions move slowly.’ and I know that, I’m not blind. I sensed from Jackie that somewhere in there is a will to change, but I also sensed a desire to hold on to something. I have no idea what it must feel like to be in that acting company, but I bet it feels like a family. I don’t know this, I’m just guessing. And I’m guessing that on a certain level, the whole company must feel like we’re threatening the integrity of the family. Nothing could be further from the truth. If the Shaw Festival wants to differentiate itself from other theatres by creating a sense of family, then by all means, do so, but in that family, you can have all the shades of the planet. A kind of Josephine Bakeresque Rainbow Tribe. She asked would actors of colour come if invited, and I said as long as they feel that they’ll have a chance to do quality work that challenges them. And I think that goes for all actors.
So what’s next? Glad you asked. First I want your input. Tell me what you think about what Jackie said. Tell me what YOU think we should do. Then I’ll post it here and then we’ll move on from there. And try and post soon. I’d like to give Jackie our response as soon as possible. Lets set a deadline of next Tuesday.